Two Thieves Podcast

The Two Thieves Podcast will focus on extolling God's mercies, examining scripture, and looking through the lens of a Christian Worldview. We will dialogue on current events, both inside and outside the Church, as well as reviewing other articles, videos, and publications. Like the whole of scripture, this podcast is first and foremost about God, not about man.
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Jan 24, 2017

This week we had an opportunity to speak with Reverend Rusty Thomas, Director of Elijah Ministries and Operation Save America.  Rev. Thomas is a national leader in the fight to biblically end abortion in the U.S.  Rusty shared with us his testimony of how he began in this ministry, his thoughts on the state of the church in the fight against abortion, and his insights on the future of abortion in America.  We hope this interview edifies you and encourages you all to use your giftings in the fight to end this abomination and, most importantly, further the cause of the gospel. 

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Opening music:  Mike B. Fort- “This Time”

Dialogue: Jahzzar- “Green Lights”

Outro:  Loser’s Luck- “The Innocent”

Jan 17, 2017

Pastor John Samson (Kings Church, Arizona and was gracious enough to join us this week to talk Reformation and Word of Faith theology.  This is an episode you absolutely do not want to miss as Pastor Samson discusses the early church figures and driving forces behind the Reformation.  He also talks to us about his experiences in the Word of Faith movement and why its teachings are so dire and dangerous. 

Please check out Pastor Samson’s work at, the Dividing Line, and Apologia All-Access.  We thank him for taking the time to come on with us this week.

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Special thank you to Mike B. Fort for our intro and segment music and Indelible Grace for the exit music. 

Jan 10, 2017

Happy 2017!  This week we had the opportunity to discuss the Doctrines of Grace with someone in sharp disagreement.  This gave us the chance to reexamine a few of the most common misrepresentations of Calvinism.  Though you may have come across these arguments many times before, we thought this was a great time to discuss how Reformed Theology is exegetically backed by scripture and often distorted by those with a more man-centered theology.  We hope this episode is helpful in the discussions our listeners have with others and ultimately glorifies God in the correct interpretation of his Word. 

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Background intro music credit:  Mike B. Fort- “This Time”

Jan 1, 2017

We wrap up our first year (kind of…) reviewing some of the hottest theological issues of 2016.  Narrowing it down to the top 5, we discuss pastoral attrition, the trinity debate, church authority, bathroom wars, and the Donald.  We can’t thank each and every one of you enough for your support as we strive to fulfill our part of the Great Commission through this Podcast and our ministry.  Please continue to share our episodes as we dive head first into 2017!

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Dec 23, 2016

We hope you all are as excited to listen to this episode as we are to share it! This week we talked with the guys over at the Laymen's Cup about a potpourri of gospel centered issues.  This was by far our favorite episode to date to record and we hope you all are blessed by it.  We thank Kemp, Shaun, Wes, and Bob for taking the time to speak with us and encourage all of our listeners to check out their website and Facebook page as well as subscribe to their podcast.  Enjoy!  

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Dec 15, 2016

This past Saturday we were back at the abortion mill to spread the gospel, but this week was a bit different.  This time, there were 2 men there who were attempting to thwart our efforts.  We spoke to both of these men about their worldviews, and on this episode we discuss the apologetic discussions we had with them.  What is the basis for the atheistic epistemology?  How do they justify what they know about the world?  What were some of the main oppositions these two had to Christianity?  What should the Christian mindset be when engaging detractors of the faith?  Please join us this week as we discuss this vital issue for Christians.  If you’d like to see a video of our discussion at the clinic just search our page on YouTube.

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Dec 10, 2016

If you’re an active Calvinist that follows the underground Reformed movement, you’re already aware of the sermons of Rick Patrick and Paige Patterson that deemed Calvinism a “Trojan Horse.”  This week we share our thoughts on what they had to say and follow up with a discussion on the “Big 3” texts that many Arminians believe are in direct opposition to Reformed Theology.  But are they???  We also talk about our experience meeting Dr. James White!! 

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Dec 2, 2016

Abortion is to blame for the deaths of over 6 million innocent children in America.  Contrary to the current narrative, it's not solely a political issue.  It's a Gospel issue.  This week we stood outside the abortion mill in our city to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to those on the front lines of the pro-choice movement.  In this episode we share our experience in hope that it encourages all of our listeners to realize this is something every single Christian is called to speak prophetically against.

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Nov 24, 2016

This week we handle one of the lightning rod issues of our current culture: race.  As our nation is faced with attempting to unify races, many within the church are calling for the same action.  But is there truly a systemic racial divide within the bride of Christ?  What’s the answer to fixing the racial rift in America?  What does scripture have to say on the issue?  And, what other related social issue of our day is even more important for Christians to address?  Join two of the whitest men you know attempt to gently seek scriptural guidance on this hot button issue.   We hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!  As always, thank you for listening! Please check out our blog at and send any and all feedback to  Soli Deo Gloria!

Nov 16, 2016

This week:  the doctrine of repentance.  The most basic teaching of the man who was sent to make way for Christ is unfortunately glazed over far too often in the modern American church.  A command not just for the lost, but for the redeemed in Christ all the more.  At such a critical juncture in our country, this is an issue that God’s people must be willing to convey as an essential part of the Great Commission.  Without repentance, we cannot see our need for a savior.  Without a savior, we are hopelessly condemned. 

In this episode we begin by answering a listeners question about deathbed confessionals in reference to our previous episode on election.  We then start our root conversation with biblically defining repentance, examining texts in reference to the doctrine, and discuss where some get the concept wrong.  The final question we seek to answer is, “What do we say to those that think we’ve been ‘saved’ through this election?  And what does it have to do with repentance?”

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Nov 10, 2016

Yep… We’re going to be those annoying Calvinists who keep reminding you that all political elections pale in comparison to the true, eternal election of God the Father.  If you’re sick of hearing about The Donald, exit polls, and the electoral college, join us as we tackle what may be an even more controversial type of election.  So how should we view the ‘U’ in TULIP?  Just how is God's election ‘unconditional?’  Where do we get the concept from in scripture?  What are some common objections to unconditional election?  We hope you give us a listen this week as we address this contentious point of Calvinism. 

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Nov 4, 2016

Fortunately for all of us, we’re only one week away from quite possibly the most divisive election is U.S. history.  For the most part we’ve stayed silent on the issue.  But as we’ve discussed politics more and more we’ve come to see how someone’s theology affects their political approach.  Or, unfortunately, the other way around.  So how does our theology influence our outlook on government?  Does God even care about what happens in our election?  Is Donald Trump the cure for what ails America?  Join us this week as we answer these questions as well as discuss Two Kingdom Theology, wicked leaders, and the judgement of God.  Your feedback is always welcome at or our contact page on  If you are an Android user, check us out on the Podcast Source app!  Thank You for listening!

Oct 25, 2016

Maybe you’ve heard of it, churches claiming supernatural occurrences of gold dust and feathers falling from the ceiling and precious stones appearing during church services.  The most notable place of occurrence being Bethel Church in Redding, CA.  Since we have no direct reference for any of this in the bible, what are we to make of it?  How do we know if it’s real? 

We start the conversation off this week discussing continuationism vs. cessationism.  Basically, do we believe the apostolic gifts held by the New Testament apostles are still prevalent today?  Is there a biblical case to be made for these incidences?  And most importantly, how does it affect our belief of the Gospel if we chose one position over the other?  Join us this week as we break down these events in the charismatic church and what we believe scripture teaches.  Please check out our new website at and send any feedback to  Thank you for listening!

Oct 19, 2016

Our first episode on the Five Solas begins with Sola Fide and the concept of justification by faith alone.  We skim the surface of the Protestant Reformation and then dive head first into the need and means of justification by faith.  How does this concept differ from that of the Catholic Church?  Why is it important to think through our theology on concepts outlined by the Solas?  What are some prominent false teachings that threaten a biblical view of justification?  And possibly most important..... Why didn't people like our last episode on music, movies, and sports?  We hope you listen this week as we seek to answer these questions and explore one of the foundational concepts of Christianity. 

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Oct 11, 2016

This week the Thieves are digging in to music, movies, and sports!  As Christians it’s incredibly easy to get sucked in to entertainment that panders to a broken culture.  The fight to be in, but not of the world is a daily battle (John 17).  In living a life seeking to honor God, what types of entertainment should we be enjoying?  What harm does it bring to a Christians life who watches and listens to anything they please?  But probably the most important question we answer….. Is Frozen based on the Gospel?  Join us as we find out! 

As always, we welcome your feedback at  And don’t forget to check out our new website!!

Oct 4, 2016

We wrap up our series on Christian apologetics with one of the most prevalent issues in America today. What was once a well established doctrine in the church as a whole has suddenly been questioned and reversed by many denominations in our culture who are disputing the sinfulness of homosexuality.  So, has the modern church suddenly unlocked the true interpretation of scripture that thousands of years of orthodox church teaching has missed?  What should our apologetic approach be to those who accept homosexuality as a glorifying lifestyle?  We tackle this subject with heavy hearts yearning for Gospel truth, viewing the scriptures as the ultimate authority and as God's holy, authoritative Word.  We welcome your feedback at We can't thank you all enough for listening

Sep 26, 2016

A bit of a late release this week as we follow up our introductory episode on Christian apologetics.  This episode we refute a presentation on atheism given by Dan Barker, a well known former pastor turned secular materialist. Dan Barker has debated the likes of James White, Doug Wilson, and Todd Friel and his arguments encompass many common rebuttals atheists give to the Gospel. 

Throughout Mr. Barker's we look at the foundation he stands upon to make his case for a randomized universe and whether or not his arguments against the Triune God of Scripture pass the test of objective truth.  Is it even consistent for an atheist like Dan Barker to appeal to an objective truth?  We hope this episode exhorts our listeners to  "always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have" (1 Peter 3:15)

Thanks for listening and please feel free to send any and all feedback to

Sep 16, 2016

This week we begin a series on apologetics, or how to defend our Christian faith.  We transition into our topic by taking a look at an article that follows up on our "Shallow Oceans" episode.  We stumbled upon an interview with the director of an upcoming documentary about the Hillsong United band. As a professing non believer, he discusses what draws him to Hillsong and their music.

Our main topic for this episode is the exegesis of Romans 1.  As we look into this chapter we uncover what Paul is saying about the nature of man and how it applies to our culture today.  Before we can defend our faith we must understand the nature of our audience and how to best convey the gospel message to them. Thank you all for listening and please send any and all feedback to  

Sep 8, 2016

No clever titles this week, just straight Gospel talk.  This week we welcome our first guest:  our Pastor Ben Ritz.  If you've listened to our first 10 episodes (THANK YOU!!) this is a great culmination to the topics we've discussed.  We sought Ben's opinion on various topics related to what a biblical church should look like:  What does Gospel-Centered mean?  What is the purpose of meeting?  What should biblical worship include?  How should we view membership to a church body? 


We pray this episode gets the amount of listens it deserves.  It may not be a flashy topic but we truly believe this is some of the deepest, most honest talk about the church body that we've put out.  As always, thank you for listening and please send any and all feedback to

Sep 2, 2016

This week we embraced the help of a few listeners to fuel this week's episode.  In the past week we've been confronted with a few issues that we thought were important to address:

Medical Marijuana:  We received a listener email asking about the usage of medical marijuana for the Christian.  Is it ok?  Is it a sin?  Is the line more grey than black?

Hypostatic Union:  A common interpretation of Phillipians 2:7 is that Jesus emptied himself of his divinity while on earth.  But is that what the scripture really says?  If we are to truly believe that Jesus is God, then can we really also simultaneously believe that he was dependent upon the Holy Spirit for his divine works? 

The Ramp:  We follow up the Hypostatic Union discussion with an audio clip of the false teaching in the Church about Jesus' divinity.  The popular youth movement The Ramp may be filled with an abundance of emotion, but is their Christology on point?

A special thank you to our listeners for your support!  Your support has been a true blessing to our show and we appreciate any and all of your feedback!  Email us at  Enjoy Episode 10!!



Aug 26, 2016

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves  -Matthew 7:15

 Unfortunately, many Christians have fallen victim to the “anything Jesus” culture; that any person or church proclaiming the name of Jesus is automatically righteous.  This has led to some of the world’s largest churches being those that proclaim false gospels, namely the prosperity gospel.  The prosperity gospel teaches that belief in God is accompanied by financial and physical fortune and that faith is in direct correlation with worldly blessing.  These teachings can sometimes be blatant and sometimes be veiled, but they are always an anti-Christian gospel.  The Bible calls Christians to be patient, humble, longsuffering servants who will obtain their ultimate reward in Christ not in this life but in the eternal life to come.  To borrow from the mecca of prosperity teachers, Joel Osteen’s book, if “Your Best Life (is) Now” ….. then you are in trouble friend.   

We can’t thank you all enough for listening and welcome your feedback on our Facebook page or at

Aug 20, 2016

Want to catch up on our first 7 episodes?  Or maybe just want a refresher?  Check out some highlighted quotes from the thieves set to the tune of "The Holiness of God" by Shai Linne in this "Podcast Jam!"  Let us know what you think....  Thanks for listening!!

Aug 17, 2016

The word tangent has two meanings:  1)A line, curve, or surface meeting but not intersecting another and 2)Diverging from an original purpose or course...  In Episode 8, we exercise both. 

We start off this jam packed episode with a look back at our first 7 episodes and a couple of tangents about issues we’ve encountered since the release of Ep. 7: “Shallow Oceans.”  But the true subject of this week’s show is where the tangent of the Gospel of Christ and the issue of abortion meet.  More specifically; What should the church’s response be to the issue of abortion?  We take a look at some ways we believe the church as a whole could improve in responding to the issue of abortion and some practical solutions of how we further the Glory of God through working to end this heinous sin.  If we are to be part of the solution, we must admit that each of us, individually and collectively, are falling short.  We hope as our brothers and sisters in Christ that you all find encouragement in this week’s episode.  As always, please feel free to send your feedback to  Thank you for listening!!

Aug 9, 2016

If you're a fan of contemporary Christian music you've heard it:  the hit song "Oceans" by Hillsong.  In the past year it has dominated Christian radio as well as congregational worship sets.  It was so popular that it was even sung on the show "The Voice."  This week we dig into the lyrical content of this song to unpack its theological validity.  Is this song representative of true, biblical, Christ exalting worship?  Or does it leave much to be desired?  Join us this week as we look at what makes a praise song biblically sound and what many worship tunes may be lacking.  As always, we love your feedback.  Contact us on Facebook or at Thanks for listening!!!

Aug 1, 2016

This week we continue with our overview of the video of a young girl speaking at a hyper charismatic church.  In Part 2 we look at the effect of allowing only pure emotion to drive our worship and of having complete disregard for order in congregational services.  We also dive into 1 Corinthians 12 and the teachings Paul employs to correct the abuse of tongues happening in Corinth and how it applies to common abuses of the gifting in the modern day church.  Above all, we seek to apply all of this to the ultimate message of salvation through Christ and seeing him alone be glorified in our worship.  Thanks for listening!!

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